Rich Coach Club

RCC 73: Transform Your Workspace into a Money Magnet with Lisa Sharp

As coaches and entrepreneurs, you’re likely working from your own home office, and especially if you don’t see clients face-to-face on a daily basis, you might not realize how important your workspace is to your mood and ability to make money in your business. So on today’s episode, I’m diving into the connection between your environment and your business’s profitability, and I’ve got an amazing guest on the podcast to share her wisdom on how you can up-level and upgrade your space too.

Lisa Sharp is a professional organizer and life coach who helps women let go of stuff that doesn’t serve them, to create spaces they feel passionate about and regain control over their lives. She’s talking us through the tell-tale workspace signs that highlight the need to ramp up your focus, and how to start tweaking and transforming your space into a money-making machine.

Join us today to discover how styling your office space can be a game-changer to not only your mood and happiness, but your ability to create a highly successful business too. Lisa’s take on how women tend to put everything and everyone else first is going to shift your perspective and hopefully, inspire you to start taking up more space to create an optimal environment to flourish in.

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What You’ll Learn from this Episode:

  • Why the environment you create is crucial to running a profitable business.
  • Why dopamine is your BFF as an entrepreneur.
  • How to boost dopamine by freshening up your workspace.
  • Tell-tale signs in your workspace that signals you might not be taking your business seriously.
  • How to start creating a workspace that works for you.
  • Why Lisa wants women to put themselves front and center by taking up more space.
  • Lisa’s take on the issues that come with over-consuming and over-buying.
  • A few design tips to keep in mind to create an optimal space for your work.

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Full Episode Transcript:

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Welcome to the Rich Coach Club, the podcast that teaches you how to build your dream coaching practice and how to significantly increase your income. If you’re a coach and you’re determined to start making more money, this show is for you. I’m master certified life coach Susan Hyatt, and I’m psyched for you to join me on this journey.

Hey y’all. Welcome to the show. Or if you’re a long-time listener, welcome back. Would you love to increase your sales without working longer hours or working harder? Of course. Hello, obviously. Who wouldn’t?

Well, get this, a couple of years ago, researchers did a study that included 73 retail stores throughout California. 49 of those stores had artificial lighting and 24 of those stores had natural light pouring in through a skylight. Aside from that one detail, the stores were all very similar. And guess what? Researchers found that the 24 stores with natural light experienced higher sales all year long, compared to the ones that didn’t.

In other words, the presence of beautiful natural light made customers want to spend more money. This makes total sense, right? When you’re in a beautiful environment, you feel relaxed, you feel happy, you feel optimistic. You’re more likely to think creatively and make beautiful art or make a beautiful purchase.

Bottom line, if you want to run a profitable business, your environment really matters. Your workspace influences how you feel and how your clients and customers feel too. So whether you work from home or a traditional office, wherever you work, it’s so important to create a beautiful atmosphere.

So on today’s episode, we’re talking about the connection between your space, your mood, and your income. Even if you work virtually with clients and rarely interact face-to-face, all the tips in this episode will still apply to you because even if your clients don’t see your workspace, they can definitely feel your mood. So keep listening and learn how to style your office so that it becomes a money magnet.

We’re starting with a segment that I call your two-minute pep talk. And even though SeminalGrad gave me a three-star review because he or she says that my pep talks are never two minutes or less, and that I should be accurate when I describe it, listen, I’m a time bender. It feels like two minutes or less. This is the part of the show where I share some motivation and encouragement to get your week started off right. And I try to keep things to two minutes or less.

You know that feeling you get when you hear your favorite song, or you step into a beautiful stylish hotel room, or you snuggle into bed and feel those silky clean sheets? Now, if you’re Ryan Hyatt, go wash your sheets, son. He doesn’t know what that feels like. That sweet, delicious, happy feeling. That’s dopamine.

Dopamine is the neurotransmitter that’s released during pleasurable experiences, and guess what boo, dopamine is also one of the chemicals that helps you focus, be productive, think creatively, and stay motivated. As a coach and entrepreneur, dopamine is your BFF. If you want a flourishing business that generates big money, then you definitely want big doses of dopamine daily.

One way you can give yourself an all-natural dopamine boost is by creating a beautiful office. Yes ma’am. Having a beautiful workspace that you love will really get that dopamine flowing. So listen, maybe right now you don’t have a real office. Maybe you’re working from a kitchen table, on a laptop, or you’re squeezing yourself into the laundry room to get some privacy, or recording your podcast in the closet.

But even if you’re working from home, it’s important to have a workspace that really feels like yours. So my challenge for you this week is to upgrade your current workspace. Make it beautiful. Create a space that you enjoy visiting. A place where you feel refreshed and creative.

Or if you don’t have a workspace yet, then this week, I want you to create one. Even if you’ve only got three feet of space in the corner of your tiny apartment, I want you to claim those three feet and turn them into your business headquarters. Your boss headquarters.

And when you claim that space and make it yours, it really creates an amazing mental shift. You’re signaling to yourself, hey, I’m a great coach, I take my work seriously, and I deserve a real space, a beautiful space where I can do my best work.

Now, years and years ago, so this would have been 13 years ago now, we have a home office here in our home and Scott and I both shared it. We both had offices outside of the home. This was when I was in real estate and he’s a commercial realtor. And then we had this home office where we paid bills and would share the desk space whenever we needed it.

And then when I started my life coaching business, I cleaned this space out, I actually made Scott take any files, any step that he needed, and put it in a different filing cabinet out of this space. I claimed the whole thing as mine. And it felt so empowering. I remember saying to him as he stood in the doorway of this office, I remember saying to him, “I am going to create an empire out of this little 12 by 14 space,” and I did.

And over the years, it’s gone through a couple of different upgrades, little things like furniture, an iMac, a desktop, the microphone I’m using for this podcast, a beautiful chandelier, my beloved wipe on, wipe off board. But every little move I’ve made to make this space beautiful has had a huge boost in my energy output.

So it’s amazing how the smallest changes like opening a window, clearing the clutter off your desk, getting a few plants or some flowers, lighting a candle is something I do every single morning, putting up a piece of art. Those kinds of small upgrades can dramatically shift the vibe.

You don’t necessarily need to do a $20,000 remodel. Little changes can make a huge difference. So remember that a beautiful workspace creates a pleasurable experience for you, which unleashes more dopamine, which leads to a super productive day. So that’s your challenge, peeps.

Freshen up that workspace or claim a workspace, even if you don’t have one. Make it feel beautiful and pleasurable. Get that dopamine flowing. Create a space that makes you feel rich. And like I always say, you got to feel rich to get rich. Do it, boo, this week, and watch how this boosts your mood and income too.

Now we’re moving into the part of the show where I give shout-outs to you. Shout-outs to listeners and clients, all the wonderful people in my business community. And today, I want to give a shout-out to Beth Caldwell from Pennsylvania. Hi, Beth.

So Beth calls herself on iTunes LiveInYourTruth, and she entitles this podcast review, “Listen for the ultimate empowerment and motivation. Susan Hyatt is my role model for success.” Thank you, Beth. “Her podcasts inspire me to stretch out of my comfort zone and bring my best self to the party. Listen to every episode.”

Thank you so much Beth. I appreciate that. And hey, if you have something to say about this show, please send an email to my team, [email protected], or post a five-star iTunes review about this show, or a review on Stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can also tag me on social media and you might hear your name on a future episode. I love giving shout-outs to folks in my community, so holler at me. Thanks for the love and I love y’all right back.

Now it’s time for a really special interview, and I’m stoked to introduce you to Lisa Sharp. She’s a professional home organizer and life coach and we had a fabulous conversation recently about how to tweak your workspace to create a better mood and a better day.

She has so much experience working with thousands of clients to shape up their space and she has such great stories about what she notices when she goes into people’s spaces and how this affects your mood, your income, all those things. So listen up and learn some hot tips from Lisa so that you can transform your space into a money magnet.

Susan: Welcome to the show, Lisa Sharp.

Lisa: Thank you. I’m so happy to be here, Susan Hyatt. Thank you for inviting me.

Susan: So I’m so intrigued by what you do because I think the first time that you and I talked about what you do, so for those of you listening, Lisa has been a professional organizer for a long time and she transitioned into life coaching. And one of the things that she said to me when we were talking about the Bare process and we were talking about something that I refer to in the Bare process as environmental detox, right, Lisa, this has been a big part of your career is helping people detox, declutter their spaces.

And one thing she said to me that I was like, what, Lisa said she can walk into any space, she could walk into your bedroom and tell you based on what she observed what kind of sex life you’re probably having.

Lisa: Good, bad, or otherwise. It’s true.

Susan: I mean to tell you, that caught my attention. And so it really is true that your physical life is a reflection of your inner life, and I know you’ve seen lots of fun things.

Lisa: Oh yes.

Susan: And so for entrepreneurs, because probably most of the coaches listening to this, the entrepreneurs listening to this are solo-preneurs. I mean, I’ve been working out of my home office, I mean, for 12 and a half years. Only now am I even considering having an office outside of my home office. I’ve loved it for all these years. But I think it’s important.

The space that you work in, I mean, I can work out of anywhere. I can work out of a coffee shop, I can work out of an Airbnb, I mean, I love that about this industry and this business, but it’s important.

Lisa: Yeah, absolutely. Your space is so much more important than I think a lot of us even really consider. And especially if you’re working for yourself, you’re working from home, how you show up to your business is reflected in your space and how you dress and how you speak about yourself, how you talk about your business. All of those things are going to be related and you’re just going to bring a totally different energy if you’re rolling out of bed.

I’m like, a super big fan of yoga pants myself, but I can definitely tell a difference when I’m just sort of like, I’m just going to lay on my couch and work on my laptop today, versus I’m pulling up to my desk and I got my lips on. I can go live whenever I want to and not going to be like, oh crap, I got to go spend an hour getting ready. It’s just a different vibe and you show up in a totally different way.

And I find it fascinating that we don’t spend very much time maintaining and taking care of that stuff. I think in other ways has been fetishized. It’s like we’re all obsessed with how things look on Pinterest and Instagram and looking at celebrities’ homes and that sort of thing, but we’re not really looking at the nitty-gritty of how are we living from day-to-day and how does that affect how we show up in our own lives. I think that those two things are very, very intertwined.

Susan: What do you notice when you are in and out of spaces, people’s homes, offices, what do you notice? If you were to walk into my office, which there’s – right now, there’s all these boxes of swag because I’m sending out these beautiful boxes to people who sign up for my programs and I’m in between full-time personal assistants.

So god, I am going to UPS and the post office myself, which is hilarious because last week we had these torrential winds and I had these boxes stacked up and I had all the addresses of the recipients of these boxes written down on a Post-It note and I got out of my car with all these boxes and the Post-It note blew away, all the way across the parking lot.

And I was like, I am not meant to do this. But usually, my office is pretty popping. So what do you think for people listening are some of the tell-tale signs that they’re not taking their business seriously that’s reflected in their personal space?

Lisa: Okay, well first of all, I have to actually – before I answer that question, talk about your office space for a minute because I have had the opportunity to see it via video many times and I’m always intrigued. I’m always like, what’s under that thing? And what’s behind that door?

And you know, I’m like, I’ve been a professional organizer for six years. I’ve been in and out of nearly a thousand houses. And so it’s just – it’s been imprinted on me. You said at the beginning of this show, you can walk into a space and see a whole lot. It can tell a lot about what’s going on in a space just without anyone saying anything.

So your space, Susan, interesting, because you are surrounded by all of these really positive, powerful women. You have all these images of just these amazing women that are living today and who have been amazing historical figures. And there’s such a feeling of empowerment, of being uplifted in that space. I can really see you in it and I’m really interested to see how you design your next space whenever you decide to move.

Susan: Oh my god. So we’re closing on the lot. We have not started construction. People are like, let me see the pictures. I’m like, dude, we have to close on the lot. We haven’t even moved the first pile of dirt. But it’s coming. It’ll probably be a year from now before I’m actually working out of that space.

But Holly, who is my head designer has done some mock ups. It is going to be like, Instagram has come to life. It’s going to be ridiculous. So I can’t wait to hear what you think of that.

Lisa: And you’re so good at creating beautiful spaces. Like I can just tell you just do that effortlessly. That’s part of who you are. And creating that experience for other people, for your clients to show up and just be wowed. And also taken care of, and I think that those two elements are really strong in whatever you are creating. I think it’s amazing.

Susan: Well, thank you. So if any of you listening to this are looking around your workspace, some of you might be saying like, “Oh my gosh, I just kind of go from the couch to the dining room table to my bed, to the coffee shop,” I hear you. I understand. Some of you may be looking around thinking, “Maybe I should throw away these pizza boxes.”

Lisa: Please do.

Susan: Please do. What are some things that you have found when you go into someone’s office, their home office, that you’re like, oh, she means business? What kinds of things can people implement?

Lisa: Oh yeah. It’s particularly business office spaces are like, my jam. I love talking office space because like I said at the beginning, it has such an impact. So you can tell if somebody is on their shit, if their office space looks like an office space. It doesn’t look like an office-cum-living-room-cum kitchen-cum-kid’s-room-cum-Costco-dump-ground.

And I think we’re – especially those of us that work from home, it’s really hard to maintain those boundaries. And honestly, it can be really tricky to even begin. If you’re just carving out some space, I say the first four years of my business, I ran it off of the left-hand side of my couch. I had no office, I had no walls, I had no door.

So I get it. I used to just sit around and dream of my dream office and I manifested it. It’s exactly what I have now. But I always emphasize putting a lot of effort into editing out what doesn’t belong in a workspace and whatever it is that makes it you. Bring more of that in, even if you are working in a tiny space. Giving it the sort of mental boundaries of this is where I work.

It’s like they say do a bunch of stuff in your bedroom that isn’t related to sex or sleep because our brains just are hardwired to observe what is around us but then also not think about it. It just is imprinted in our brains. So we’re having this sort of background thinking going on all the time about what is in the space, and if we’re trying to do something that’s separate from that, that static is still there.

So in your office, having pizza boxes and kid’s toys and a pallet of bottled water sitting next to you is going to make it a lot harder for you to take yourself seriously. Especially if you’re doing Skype calls, video calls or something as a part of your business, what is behind you is important. Please show up looking the part. Even if you’re sitting and you’re not wearing any pants, nobody’s going to see that, that’s fine.

It can look like a shit show but what’s behind you really does matter. So having a clear workspace where you can show up and do the thing that you do with all of the accoutrement and tools that you need is credible. And it doesn’t have to be this big elaborate Pinterest board, whatever.

My desk is literally a table from Ikea that I just liked and I thought that’d be a good size, and so that’s my desk. And I think it was like, $79. But I love my desk. It makes me super happy and that’s what matters more than anything else. It’s functional for me. I like the way that it looks. I like the way that it feels and so I’m happy to roll up to it every day.

Really spending time, quality time on – quit taking the scraps from the rest of the house and cobbling it together. Make some of those business investments in the tools that you’re using every single day and really focusing on up-leveling and upgrading what you’re currently using.

And you don’t have to do it all at once. This is not about spending a bunch of money, but this is about being aware of how you’re using your stuff, what you’re using, and what would make it feel even better.

Susan: It was really interesting for me when I started this company in 2007. So my house that we’ve been in for 17 years I think now, maybe longer, it was built in 1927 and it’s a traditional two-story Colonial and it has on the side of the house what was like a porch, a side porch, sunroom that is an office.

And it was always – I think it was always an office. And this was a joint office that when Scott and I both worked outside of the home, it was just sort of – we’d come in here and pay bills and whatever. And when I started this company, I remember working from this space and Scott still having all his stuff everywhere and coming in here and slapping stuff up.

It was a big deal for me. It was maybe six months in. It took me that long to finally be like, I want every single thing that you need out of here and relocated because this is my company that I’m running out of this space. And like, this is no longer a joint thing. You have an office outside of the home. This is my only office and this is mine. So I do think there’s something to like, claiming your space and deciding this is it.

Lisa: Oh yeah. And as women, we end up often just making do. Like we’ll just sort of put up with whatever situation, the scraps from the kids. I mean, or the house. I have worked with so many women who live in these beautiful houses, and they’ll be like, oh gosh, my paperwork is crazy, I work from home, I don’t know what I’m doing, I feel like I’m always pulled in a million different directions. And I’ll say okay, let’s go look at the space, the office space.

It’s always like, in the very back corner of the house. It’s like, you have to walk through tunnels to get to it, and it’s often this teeny tiny space. And I’m like, hold up. Why are you doing this? And a lot of the times these are very successful women who are running businesses, or like I said, are just working from home and have a home office, but they’re also doing all of the family stuff. We talk all the time about how women are constantly doing work for the house.

Susan: The invisible workload of women.

Lisa: Thank you. Thank you for remembering, yes. But yeah, so we’re doing all of these things, we’re orchestrating all of these things. Oftentimes we’re dealing with elderly parents with medical issues or it can be really complex. And yet we’re doing all of this stuff but we’re taking up the smallest amount of space in our homes. And I want that to be the reverse. I want to see women up front and center and spreading. I want to see women spreading.

Susan: We need some women spreading, yes, we do.

Lisa: I do. I think we deserve it. And I think instead of settling for scraps, we need to be putting ourselves front and center, and that means our space.

Susan: That means our space.

Lisa: Yeah, good for you for – oh and also, I can hear some of the listeners saying, “But I’ve decorated the whole house and my stuff is all over the house,” and that might be true, but do you have a designated space that’s just for you? Does your spouse have one? Probably. Do you? If you don’t, let’s work on that.

Take over one of those – if you have an extra bedroom or a breakfast nook, I mean, you can totally think outside of the box. You could have an awesome closet office or a clo-fice as my daughter likes to say. It doesn’t have to be a huge portion of the house, but take up more space than what you are currently doing, my friend. I think it will serve you well.

Susan: So let me back up and say this podcast, the name of it is Rich Coach Club. It’s a double entendre. It’s really yeah, I’m all about money, coaches making money, women making as much money as they want, but also living a deeply rewarding, rich life. And I love some of the conversations you and I have had before about something that you notice and something that really jazzes you up, in terms of people living rich lives without over-consuming and over-buying, and do you want to speak a little bit about that?

Lisa: Oh yeah. I think we are just sort of fed this whole idea that in order to be happy, we need more stuff. And we need to be consuming more and buying the next thing and this whole idea of retail therapy I think is just such bullshit, and it’s so distractive. Because this is just yet another way that we buffer or we don’t deal with our emotions and use something else to make us feel better.

But it’s so socially acceptable that people don’t really think of it as being problematic. Unless we’re talking about debt or really crazy consumption, it’s just a super acceptable thing. And I see the dark side of this all the time, which is the overwhelm of all of this stuff, the too muchness, the numbed out, I don’t even know what I own. I see that all the time.

And this is more of a middle-class problem, but I’ve seen it in both directions is very, very disruptive to the way that we live. Worrying about I need to clean up the house and I have all of this stuff and no, I can’t take a vacation, or I can’t spend time with my kids because I have all of these other things to do. It’s just this constant energy drain.

And it really does separate us from one another. I see often, dining rooms that can’t be sat at as a family because there’s literally not room. And I’m not talking about people on the hoarding scale. I’m talking about your regular Joe sort of family that have just – have fallen into this trap of shopping all the time, especially with being able to shop from our couches while we’re watching Netflix.

Oh my goodness, could it be any easier to do? I don’t think so. But it really does have a negative effect on the environment, on our wallets, on our free time, on our relationships. It’s really pervasive.

Susan: And I think for entrepreneurs who are running businesses probably from home, I have found that in my work with Bare, so many of my clients will celebrate the fact that they’re not using food as a way to numb out, and sometimes then that transitions to alcohol. And what I’ve noticed as well working with so many clients, shopping, online shopping becomes the way that they cope, numb out, and you’re right.

Sitting with my laptop all the time, I have lots of excuses to shop. Like oh, I have a new video series I’m doing and my husband’s always like, surely, there’s something in your closet that would be appropriate for this video you’re shooting. I’m certain there’s something, right? And I’m like, stop talking.

I have a sister who I adore, who one time texted me and said, “Look at these boxes that just showed up from Amazon when I had too much wine the other night.” She’s like, “I don’t even remember buying this stuff.” And so many of my clients will put the purchases in a spare bedroom or in the basement.

And so when you walk into a space and you have somebody who can’t use their office, can’t use their dining room, there’s stuff everywhere, what do you think internally they need to question within themselves about the stuff?

Lisa: Well, the biggest question is why. That’s very obvious, but it’s true. What is going on emotionally and what are the stories that this person is telling themselves that they think this is tenable?

Susan: Yeah, like, what is it – for myself with online shopping, I’m always like, what is the feeling state I’m trying to experience by wearing that thing, those shoes? I’m trying to think of what I bought recently that I thought was like, okay. I bought all these candles, they were on sale. I bought all these candles.

I’m like, the weirdo, and I’m going to ask you this question soon, so get ready, but a question I ask everybody on the podcast or most people on the podcast is what’s something that makes you feel rich that either costs very little money or no money, and I love hearing people’s answers. And people always laugh at my answer, which is consistently Nespresso pods and toilet paper.

That does cost money, but having an overabundance of that in my house makes me feel so rich, and I have to add to that, having a plethora of my favorite scented candles as well and they were on sale the other day. But I was like, this really does give me the feeling of abundance, much more so than an expensive bag, car, whatever.

I’m like, I got all the candles, Nespresso, and toilet paper one person could possibly need. But I think beyond that, what is it? Lisa’s so right. Asking yourself why is this stuff in my space, why did I purchase this, why do I own this, does this spark joy, which is the Marie Kondo question.

Lisa: And what am I putting up with is the flip side to that. Because we will just keep adding without subtracting. Therein lies the rub. But what am I telling myself that it’s okay to live like this? I don’t mean this in a judgmental way at all. If people are calling me it’s because they’re stuck.

Susan: And when people feel stuck, like many of you listening to this, you may be looking around your space being like, uh-oh. When people are stuck and you help them redefine their space, declutter their space, evaluate their space, what is typically the thing that either the thought or the feeling state that keeps them stuck?

Lisa: Oh, overwhelm. Just I don’t have time, I have too much, there’s not enough time, I’m responsible for everything. So these are people that – and again, I think this has a lot to do with our culture and our expectation of women. We’re the keeper of the stuff. We’re the tenders of the – is that a word? I don’t think so – the emotional wellbeing of the people in the family. And that’s not just the people that are in our house. That’s our parents, our siblings, our best friends, the people at work.

So we just keep adding more and more stuff to our to-do list, to our overflowing calendars to the point where we’ve lost ourselves. What do I even like? I’m so overwhelmed. And that’s when – those are the things that I hear to begin with. And usually there’s a lot of shame involved with it. How did I let it get to this point? What does it mean for me as a person? As a wife, as a mother, as a whatever the role may be, how did I let it get this bad?

And that is such a – it’s so relative. I’ve worked with people who feel totally overwhelmed because some of their drawers are a junkie and I have clients that are truly hoarders. So it really runs the gamut, but what matters more than the outward level of stuff, that’s just the volume of stuff. But what matters more is what are you thinking? How are you dealing with it and what is keeping you here? And what would it look like to be on the other side of it?

Susan: Yeah. I love thinking about okay, if you could click your heels like Dorothy, in fact, I used to pretend this actually. My mom loves to tell the story, this was when I was in high school. I had so many clothes all over the floor that you couldn’t not step on them.

And she came to wake me up one morning and she stepped and squished, and it was an old rotten banana squished into my carpet. So whenever I complain about what slobs I think my children are, she’s like, but was there a rotten banana squished into the carpet? You need to shut your mouth. But I had the sloppiest room, and when I was little, I would click my heels and pretend like, wouldn’t it be nice if I could just click my heels?

Lisa: Talk about being disappointed.

Susan: Oh my god, but if somebody could like, click their heels or twitch their nose and have things the way that they wanted, it’s like, what’s the feeling state you want to feel if that could happen?

Lisa: Yeah, so that one mindset is just critical, that is absolutely critical. All of this stuff when I first started being a professional organizer years ago, before I got into coaching, I would always feel like I don’t want to be the magic nose-wriggler and show up and make it all perfect and pretty without my client. Because people who just go in and do for their clients, how are the clients supposed to maintain it?

And this is true in every aspect of life, right? You have this habit that is negatively impacting your life, if you remove all of the stuff that has accumulated because of that habit without changing the habit, guess what? You are right back where you started from and there’s just no way around that and it sucks.

Susan: Totally. And in coaching it’s the same way. I remember when I was a new coach, no, it was for Self-Coaching 101 certification through Brooke Castillo. And I remember I had to submit some email coaching as part of the certification. And I remember she emailed me back and she said, why are you doing your client’s work for her? And I was like, and I was. I was doing all the heavy lifting and it’s so much that way in coaching like, I’m not going to do your work for you. You got to get your hands dirty, boo.

Lisa: Yeah, and you got to take ownership of it. This shit didn’t just happen to you. Your house didn’t just fill up with clutter. That’s not the way it goes. Sorry. And I know there are always circumstances. I hear about them all day long. I just know that ultimately, it’s what are you allowing to come into your life and then what are you putting up with and not getting rid of? And again, crosses all the different areas of life. It just does. Once we dig in and get our little hands dirty, it is so amazing how quickly all of us can shift.

Susan: What do you think in terms of the work that you’re going to do in 2020 is most important to you?

Lisa: I think really just talking about shifting our mindset. Just how incredibly powerful that is and how much power we actually have in our lives. I think it’s so easy for us to sort of slip into the mentality of things happening to us when I get to play however I want to. And that really is true.

I just find it just endlessly fascinating to help clients with that, to help them start to just get a whiff of that understanding because it does take time. It’s not just like a switch. It’s work, it’s getting in there, like you said, getting your hands dirty. But once you get in it, oh man, you’re just in a whole different ballgame and it’s so much more fun. It is way more fun.

Susan: So I’d like to end with my favorite question. Lisa Sharp, what makes you feel rich that doesn’t cost a thing or very little?

Lisa: And you know I love this question, and I love the toilet paper and Nespresso pods. I think that’s brilliant. And really truthfully, for me, it is really similar to that. For me, feeling really rich in my life is having a space that just feels like home, that feels like me, that supports me, that supports my kids, that supports my husband, my puppy.

And just feels like it’s working for us rather than against us so that we have a place for true respite and to be able to just hang out and be together without all of the pressure. This is where we come to recharge and regenerate and to be together. So yeah, having a space that can do all of that and it’s not a complicated space. It’s a really simple one.

Susan: I love that answer, particularly because that’s what you do for others too. So if people want to learn more about what you do, hang out with you, laugh at your inappropriate jokes, where can people experience the fierceness that is Lisa Sharp?

Lisa: They can head over to my website at lisasharpcoaching.com. Same handle on – I’m mostly on Instagram and on Facebook and definitely lots of inappropriateness.

Susan: I love this about you. This is why we hang.

Lisa: This is true.

Susan: You guys check out the show notes for all the links to reach Lisa and Lisa, I want to thank you so much for showing up and taking up space on my podcast today.

Lisa: Thank you Susan, it’s been so much fun. Love your podcast.

Hey, one more thing before we say bye for today. Did you know there’s an entire branch of psychology called interior design psychology? Researchers in this field study how our environments influence our health and wellbeing, our mood, and yeah, our purchasing decisions too.

There have been tons of interior design psychology studies over the last few decades and the findings are really fascinating. To create an optimal space for your coaching practice, here are a few design tips to keep in mind.

If you want to boost creativity and inspiration, a room with high ceilings is typically best. That doesn’t mean you can’t be creative in a basement, y’all. It’s just saying if you can make that happen, it’s a good thing to have.

To reduce feelings of stress and anxiety, choose a room with a view of nature. Trees, a park, flowing water, any kind of natural scenery. If that’s not possible, put up some artwork depicting nature, like a painting of an ocean or photos of the forest. Studies show that this type of artwork can promote a calmer mood too.

Now here’s my favorite. If you want to lift energy levels, vibrant colors like yellow, red, and orange work best. And if you want to soothe your clients, colors like blue, purple, and white are better. But not too much white, which can have a cold, sterile feeling.

Overall, humans feel more relaxed and comfortable in spaces that mimic nature. For instance, hardwood floors and a bright white ceiling, which mimics the feeling of a forest. Dark ground below, bright sky above. People tend to turn right immediately upon entering a room. So if you have a receptionist who greets people or a particular product you want to feature strongly, or something you especially want clients to see, consider placing it to the right.

That’s the power zone that they’re likely to see first. This is your first impression zone. And like I mentioned at the top of this episode, natural light in your shop or office can help boost sales. So those are just a few quick tips to keep in mind, and of course, it’s your business, so trust your instincts and do whatever feels good to you.

And if you want to cover your office walls with polka dots or have a pink faux fur couch, yes, you go. The happier you feel, the more money you’ll make, and that’s the biggest point. Thank you for listening to today’s episode. I hope this episode inspired you to upgrade your office or workspace, which will absolutely upgrade your mood and your income too.

There’s such a direct correlation between your environment, your productivity, and your ability to sell your products and services. Investing $50 and a little time into revamping your workspace can lead to huge rewards, so do it. Post a photo of your new and improved workspace on Instagram and tag me @susanhyatt. I want to see. Show me your boss headquarters.

Thank you for listening to Susan Hyatt’s Rich Coach Club. If you enjoyed today’s show, please head over to shyatt.com/cash where you’ll find my brand-new money magazine. Now listen, we designed this magazine to be entertaining, educational, and help you make serious bank.

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